Death for Pedophiles – Both Sides of the Story | The Bull Speaks!

The following was yanked from Fox News Online:

WASHINGTON â€??? Lynda Marie Kirby sexually abused her young son in ways more horrible than anyone could imagine, and she’ll pay a steep price for her crimes.

Kirby is serving a 125-year sentence, and she will remain in prison for half that time �?? 62 1/2 years �?? before she becomes eligible for parole.

But there are many in Texas who think Kirby shouldn’t spend even another day behind bars. They believe crimes of her nature deserve a greater punishment than imprisonment, and now the state is on its way toward approving the death penalty for child rapists.

It isn’t just in Texas. This is a NATIONWIDE movement! The only place you’ll see people afraid to say it is in the ’silly states’ like the Peoples Republiks of Kalifornia and Massachusetts.

Texas is the latest state to pass a form of “Jessica’s Law” â€??? named after 9-year-old Jessica Lunsford of Florida, who was abducted, abused, buried alive and left to die in a dirt hole by a known sex offender who lived nearby â€??? that includes the death penalty.

The Texas bill reserves the death penalty for people who rape children under age 6 at least twice, or children younger than 14 if the crime also involves the use of a deadly weapon, alcohol or drugs, death threats, bodily injury, kidnapping or gang rape. Texas Gov. Rick Perry is expected to sign the bill into law.

But in 80 to 90 percent of child rapes, the victims know their attacker, and in many cases the rapist is a relative. Critics of the bill say the knowledge that he or she could be responsible for a relative’s execution could do more psychological damage to a child than the rapes themselves.

The critics are just that – critics. There is a percentage of the population that wouldn’t be happy as an over-payed taste-tester in a pie factory. Frankly speaking, the ‘critics’ can bite my big ol’ Southern butt. :twisted: What the victim will feel is relief that they will never again be subject to the horrors of being repeatedly assaulted by human scum.

Terry Kirby doesn’t think people like his child’s mother deserve to die for their crimes. “I think the death penalty is not the answer. I feel like restorative justice is more in order, and time â€??? not just time behind bars but counseling and some type of program,” Kirby said.

“Abuse is such a wide category and it’s despicable and it’s real hard on victims. But I tell you, I think there’s a lot of place â€??? I do agree with the death penalty in certain cases, but not for molestation of a child.”

Even in some of the most heinous abuse cases, many think the damage done to a child’s psyche knowing he or she could be responsible for sentencing a relative to death is worse than letting their attackers live.

“My son was sexually abused by his biological mother and the penalty could be the death sentence … to me it seems that’s a reason for a child to not outcry. And really the thing is, kids need to be listened to, they need to be believed,” Kirby said.

“You want kids talking and they need to feel safe about it and I think that this is pushing things in the wrong direction, to keep kids from opening up.”

Jody Plauche, who was abducted in 1984 by his karate instructor and abused for more than one year, agrees.

“I can understand why people would want to put to death these repeat sex offenders,” Plauche said. “But I think in the long run what you’re going to see, you’re going to see the reluctance of people to come forwards because the perpetrators are usually someone known to the family.

“It’s going to keep their victims quiet because they know Uncle Bill’s going to be killed.”

John Bradley, a Texas district attorney, has testified in the state legislature against death penalty sentences for child rapists.

“It has taken a lot of work over several decades for government to develop an understanding of how to approach a victim … to give them the confidence to come forward and testify with the security they’ll be protected,” he said.

“Now I think we’ve sort of turned that apple cart over by beginning with the proposition that the very child’s testimony not only determines the child’s own personal security but the potential death of the defendant.”

The Bull has had the sad, hurtful duty of interviewing both child molesters and their victims. I have yet to meet a victim that didn’t vocalize clearly that they would like to see that monster dead. How’s that for a poke in the eye, Mr. Bradley?

Nonetheless, the law has popular support. Some Houston Chronicle readers, for example, posted online comments about that state’s possible new law. “It’s about time! Sex crimes against kids is about as bad as it gets,” “WorriedCitizen” wrote.

“Why wait till the second time … isn’t once enough?!!” added “ladygrant.”

Is Any Non-Homicide Crime More Deserving?

Not. A. Single. One. :evil:

Louisiana is one of only five states that allow capital punishment in child-rape cases that don’t result in the victim’s death. Patrick Kennedy is on death row for the rape of his 8-year-old stepdaughter.

“Execution of child rapists will serve the goals of deterrence and retribution just as well as execution of first-degree murderers would,” Associate Justice Jeffrey Victory wrote for the majority in the court’s opinion that Kennedy should be executed.

“Short of a first-degree murderer, we can think of no other non-homicide crime more deserving.”

Emergency workers found Kennedy’s victim wrapped in a bloody cargo blanket and bleeding profusely. She was sexually abused so violently that a surgeon was called in to repair the damage. The victim first told the same story as her stepfather �?? that two boys from the neighborhood had raped her. The girl eventually told police that her stepfather was her attacker.

Plauche, who has no problem with death sentences for rapists who also murder children, is concerned that if more abusers know they could be sentenced to death based on a child victim’s testimony, “it’s going to end up getting kids killed because there’s not going to be a witness to testify against them.”

Even though Louisiana is alone in allowing first-time offenders to be executed, Judy Benitez, executive director of the Louisiana Foundation Against Sexual Assault, said how many times an offender has struck should not be the issue.

“Not very many rapists or child rapists are first-time offenders â€??? it may be the first time they’re caught and prosecuted,” Benitez said. “I think there’s some value to the law (first-term offenders getting the death penalty) in terms of leverage for prosecutors … [but] being sentenced to death doesn’t do anything more than the other option right now.”

Whereas a prison sentence is a definitive punishment for an abuser, Benitez said the appeals process in a death penalty case can drag out for years and the victims can never get closure.

Kennedy’s lawyers plan to appeal his death sentence in state court and, if that doesn’t work, take it all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.

At issue is a 1977 U.S. Supreme Court ruling banning the application of the death penalty for the rape of a 16-year-old. That case, Coker v. Georgia, stressed that capital punishment should be used only for a capital crime like murder.

Since then, many states stopped applying the death penalty to cases involving children, but Louisiana just amended its laws to specify that punishment for the rape of a child, not an adult, could include the death penalty.

“The issue before the United States Supreme Court is whether the 8th Amendment prohibits the death penalty for those circumstances,” Bradley said. “This idea that we could withdraw an entire offense or offenses because the offense itself didn’t result in the death of the victim is an interesting one, because it gets into the value of life and the value of quality of life.

“Destroying a child’s personality and to have an enjoyment of future life is just as powerful an impact as say, ending a child’s life by killing them.”

Amen! :!:

But Bradley is worried about one case that could turn these “Jessica’s Laws” on their head.

In November 1998, the body of an infant dubbed “Baby Hope” was found inside a trash bag with duct tape over his mouth in a dumpster in Beaumont, Texas. His arms were taped across his chest with tape, as well.

The case remained unsolved until the summer of 2003, when it was determined that Kenisha Eronda Berry was the mother; her DNA and fingerprints were found on the duct tape. Berry was then in prison awaiting trial for abandoning another newborn, Paris, who was found June 6, 2003, beside the road in a remote part of Jefferson County, her eyes swollen shut from ant bites.

Berry was sentenced to death, but her sentence was overturned and she received life in prison.

“The evidence indicates that appellant has been dangerous only toward those of her own children whose existence she wanted to hide from her favored mate, that there is a very low probability that, if sentenced to life in prison, she will have any more children, and that therefore it is unlikely that she would be a danger in the future,” the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals said in a 5-4 decision.

Click here to read the opinion.

:shock: Huh? Let me make a couple of points here:

  1. 1) If Kenisha Eronda Berry is put to death, then she will have no more children to harm – same as life in prison, (which isn’t really life in prison anyway).
  2. 2) Those that abuse children may start with their own kids, but will eventually graduate to other children. Putting Kenisha Eronda Berry to death means that we don’t have to worry about kids 20 to 25 years from now.
  3. Finally, putting Kenisha Eronda Berry to death means we don’t have to pay to keep her useless ass fed, clothed, and housed for however long she remains in lockup.

Bradley thinks this ruling could send the wrong message to child molesters who deserve the death penalty for killing their victims.

“I guarantee you, lawyers who represent child molesters … are going to take that case and ram it down all of our throats. They’ll say ‘well, this guy is a pedophile, he hurts only children,’” Bradley said.

Of course. :evil: That’s what scum-loving lawyers do! Folks, there comes a time when we have to say ‘enough is enough’ and put an end to endless appeals and 20-30 year waits on death sentences to be carried out.

We also need to re-think this entire ‘cruel and unusual’ shyte. One of the favorite anti-capital punishment arguments is that all means of execution are cruel. Hell, Death is cruel! Always! That being the case, we need to simply move on to the quickest, simplest, cheapest method we can find. The Bull proposes a .45 caliber bullet to the back of the head. Death is instantaneous and the cost is only $1.00 at the absolute worst. I will volunteer the rest of my days on this planet to providing the loaded rounds and, if requested, the finger to pull the trigger.

“I’m very concerned about this opinion, a 5-4 vote; it’s a fairly narrow decision and nobody’s talking about it. It is going to kill the availability of the death penalty before anyone can even put it into law.”

Exactly what does this mean? Is it that the health and well-being, or perhaps the very lives, of children is of secondary importance to the Judicial system of America? If so, The Bull says we need to revamp that system! Children are our only link to the future. We must do anything and everything to make sure that they reach adulthood free, happy, and whole. Eliminating pedophiles would go a long way to making that possible.

DEATH TO PEDOPHILES!

Bull, out!

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10 Responses to “Death for Pedophiles – Both Sides of the Story”

  1. Renee says:

    Thanks for posting this news item and for your common sense opinion.
    Blessings,
    Renee

  2. Nancy says:

    Reguarding Kenisha Berry, there is no remorse for what she has done. She could have chosen to leave the babies ( no questions asked) with several agencies. No questions and no punishment. Instead, she made sure that no one would be able to help the children. “Baby Paris” was only found by accident. It is certainly time to put a stop to parents that injure or kill their children(or allow others to do so). Punishment should be harsher, not easier. It sends a message that it’s o.k. to elimate your children if you want to and then just plead insanity. The fact is these parents know exactly what they are doing! They try to make sure that no one else is going to be able to protect or save the babies that they are trying to kill. I am sorry, to the murdered and abused children, that we live in a society of bleeding heart and spineless judges and lawyers that seem to care more about the perpetrator’s life than that of defenseless children and victims. IMO these judge and lawyers seem to lose tract of who the victim is. Child molestors and killers should have the death sentence without us honest, hard working citizens paying for the criminals every need. If the families are soooo concerned, then let them pay for these things. Mr. Bradley seems to be under the impression that if you let these criminals off easier it would be reassuring to the victim that they are not the cause of “Uncle Bill’s” death. The reality is, they are not the cause of someone’s death, but rather, the perpetrator causes his OWN death sentence by the crimes that he knowing commits.That is what should be expressed to these children, Mr. Bradley! It is past time for those that chose to commit these hideous crimes to be held accountable. They are the one’s that sentences themselves by their actions, and we should uphold that sentence as a society.

  3. liza says:

    As the mother of a child who was molested at 3yrs of age, I agree with the death penalty for child molesters. My son’s life a he knew it ended that day (his own father did it to him). He his innocence, trust, joy and his gregarious outlook on life came to a schreeching halt that day! He is 7 now, has nightmare, has to sleep in my room, take anxiety med’s regularly…he himself says his dad should die. Thesevictims NEVER forget and it destroys their lives forever.

    I also think when you rape a child, you LOSE all your civil rights! I’d volunteer to inject these monsters myself.

  4. Flbrownsuga says:

    Im sorry, im going to have to agree. I support the death penalty.I look at it like this. If someone was to harm my child or someone I love, its either the state do it or I.Id rot in jail from the satisfaction of killing someone who hurt my babies.And then I say what if its my child on death row?Thats where our parenting comes in.Yes, we can do all we can to keep our children out of trouble but sometimes it doesnt work.If my child was to committ such a crime God knows it would be hard but as a loving and caring mother Id understand.When you take someones life the only half way consolation it brings to the family is for that person to give theirs.It doesnt bring their loved ones back but it helps.

  5. Flbrownsuga says:

    And another thing.How in the he** could someone not condone harsh punishment for the molestation of innocent children.As a molestation victim there is no way in he**.I dont care if my husband,brother whoever they must go.Im sorry I have no understanding how someone could not seek punishment for this tyupe of crime.People are to often thinking bout the suspect adn not the victim.The lady says her son has nightmares and wants his daddy to be dealt with.I understand the emotional stress this may have on a child but atleast that child can maybe sleep at night a lil better.Adults have lived there lives.They know right from wrong.There are to many prostitutes and people willing to give it up freely before you have to mess with a child.Think about our children.NO matter what when an adult you trust takes advantage of you somehow you will come to know that their punishment and their fate rested in their own hands not that of the victims.

  6. sandra pinegar says:

    I think the death penalty should fit the crime perfectly. First, allow the prison inmates to have a go at the pervert for a while and if the child molester is still alive when execution time is near – execute slowly! I am so fed up with these sickso perverts violating children. Child abuse of any form is a crime against humanity and no child abuser should get off easy!

  7. lorraine says:

    how come we don’t have any suicide drones in the us for these navy mind control scum who are raping around the clock everywhere and selling drugs on everyone’s streets
    My country disgusts me anymore because of what our military is really doing–creating drug dealing pedophiles, whores and pimps, and that is all they seem to be doing

  8. Bull says:

    Lorraine,
    I have only this standard offer to make you…

    If your Country is so damned bad, if you hate the United States of America so much, then pack your bags and get you scummy ass out.

    But, of course, you won’t do that. Why do I know this? Simple, your type of cowardly socialist bastards can only ‘talk’ a game, not play it.

  9. kevin says:

    I think the one thing people don’t seem to consider is the fact that most pedophiles never stop offending. Putting them in prison for a few years is not going to make most of them change. Very few ever change so if they are released they are likely to offend again. I understand giving a second chance unless they went to extreme torture then they should be put to death after the first offence. people need to consider even with a life sentence one may escape. I am all for the death penalty. It would be bad enough if someone harmed my child(or anyone elses)but if it were someone who had already offended and been released more than once I think that would be even worse.

  10. Jason Monroe says:

    I think the death sentence is perfect for pedophiles of ANY nature. It certainly would be better for them to be put to death, then me serve jail time for killing them should somone EVER molest one of my daughters!!!!!!!!!!!!

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